II* bayonets. Be sure to check out our gun classifieds where you can buy, sell or trade your gear. Description: Bayonet I will continue to add additional variants as I acquire additional pieces. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 13:42, Post Rear micrometer sight. Savage-made bayonets are much cruder forgings than those made by either Singer or Long Branch. 2018 at 7:33am: he! We specialize in all military surplus weapons from AK-47s, AR-15s, Mausers, CETME, Enfields, UZIs, and much more! 4 Mk 1* rifle I have are the following on the left side of the metal band holding the buttstock to the receiver assembly: (1) "1944" (with the 4 overstriking what. Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1944 No4T on the left and two heavily reworked "sportster" T's (the middle professionally done by Sante Fe) and an American surplus "bubba" on the right. Beechwood was used on some of the later war specimens and was extensively used on the rifles that were refurbished in the factories. It was published in 2007, available now from Aust., N.Z., US and UK distributors. The British No. 4 Mk. 1 Enfield rifle was adopted by the United Kingdom in 1941. Surplus Lee-Enfield spike bayonet with scabbard/sheath. identification lists detailing by illustration, descriptive part name and part number, all parts of the Rifle, .303 Calibre, Lee Enfield, No 4, Mk 1 * and its associated equipment. I bayonet was short, light, sturdy, and unappealing. II made at LongBranch in Canada. 4Mk. Re: Lee Enfeild No 4 Mk1 Markings by Saxon Cross 23 Mar 2012, 13:50 Your serial No. US$40 (4 bids) Socket: "G (Crown) R" over No 4 Mk I" over "S M", Blade (flute): Broad Arrow over "22" (in electropencil). It is probably a 2 groove barrel, most Savage No4`s were, but it shoots very well for what it was intended.Robert. In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an "S" on the would-be "single round cut off" mounting ear section of the right receiver wall. BO 12151 (the five digit no. 4 (T) 303 BRITISH SNIPER RIFLE 1944 . A listing of British and Commonwealth bayonet markings is available on Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. I now own one and some of your information is a little off. 1 Mk3 mark III SMLE No4 Mk1 1917 British Parts Lot S at the best online prices at eBay! Per the contract and description Hollands were to remove the L / "flip" battle sight when present from the sending factory and replace it with one of their provided milled micrometer sights (either Singer Machine or Savage made and marked) - this would leave the rifle needing a new "zero" - a pass through an "Enfield Rest" test. Our Price: 295.00: Gunner Points: 29: Stock Info: 1 In Stock: Parker Hale 8/53 Lee Enfield No4 rear sight (PH1) . I'm currently working on restoring a New Zealand, a Canadian and a German/Greek Enfield. Mine is a 1943. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has risen $13.78 dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $631.57 . Barrels with two, three, four, five, and six groove rifling were produced. !o, I am hoping to get some help confirming or disproving my theory about this 1963 Indian furbished Lee Enfield No4 Mk1* I bought a few days ago. The entrenching tool was made by William Hunt & Sons, The Brades Ltd., Brades Steel Works, Oldbury, near Birmingham. According to Skennerton, 25,000 experimental MkII scabbards were manufactured by the Franco-British Electrical Company, Tempel Park, Hurley. I is the most commonly encountered scabbard, outnumbering all others combined. 4 spike bayonet. II bayonets packaged in a cardboard carton. The new rifle was well regarded by the troops receiving them. Here is a Savage T format sight - with a 'squared S" on all 4 major parts as above: Of other interest - Wood and other Metal marks / stamps. The used value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($61.94) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $563.89 . II was otherwise identical to the Mk. 4 Mk. Genuine early BSA marked T rear sight (reconditioned / polished scale face): When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) II* bayonets were produced, over a million of which were produced by Prince-Smith. Baird marked their bayonets two different ways: Some No. Singer produced 1,141,782 No. Method III On the opposite side of the RFI 1963 stamp,is there a serial number? A few were parkerized at the Long Branch factory later in the war, but these examples are few and far between. Since the overall length is 46", it will fit many other rifles. 0000012831 00000 n . British Lee-Enfield No4 Mk2 knife bayonet, scabbard and frog Dated 1949 P (RSAF Poole) 95.00. 4 socket bayonets produced. Certain serial number prefixes were reserved for trial rifles and specific rifle types. 4 Mk. 4Mk. The Lee-Enfield bolt-action, magazine-fed, repeating rifle was the main firearm used by the military forces of the British Empire and Commonwealth during the first half of the 19th century. Based on a 1944 Maltby rifle. 4Mk. 0000002861 00000 n If you are slightly less lucky you may have a rifle, scope and accessories that have been used and "improved" by private owners and tinkerers, Here is how to spot original features, errant ones and simple techniques to step towards your chosen rifle impression - original factory - war years service - post war British service and post war International service - organized by parts group: Wrist markings: I was talking with a fellow enthusiast about BSA Shirley using electro-penciled serial numbers in production and so took some photos to explore this: Here we have a scopeless and virtually unfired 1945 No4T on the left and an "active service" No4T on the right that had its last service with India, other than the metal being painted with lumpy glossy black paint it is predominantly unchanged, On the left, the scopeless one exhibits all marks as freehand stamps through the blackened surface. It is essentially an updated N0. An average example runs about $375 in very good condition at the time of this writing. The first photo below is of a Hollands installed cheek piece on a 1944 scopeless rifle - its position, form and fit is per the as-new standard. Fully functional barrel, receiver in 7.62 x 51 NATO. 1943 went up to 'BL'. 4Mk. The No. An example would be: rifle serial number 52C2689 would be the 522,689th rifle produced by Savage Stevens. In the British war time contract scheme there were 2 phases of demarcation - early / pre-war marks, and later regionalized contractor codes, For mid 1943 and down you are seeking the early war markings from Singer (SM), after that seek the regional producer code (S69 - for Southern region, 69th contractor). I Mk. Accuracy: * * * * * The No. Sheffield Steel Products produced approximately 670,000 Mk. Some of these rifles seemed to have laid in stores until the end of the war and then they and and the remains of the BSA marks were furiously converted to "T" status by H&H while the contract lasted. by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:45, Post Here's a picture of a maltby 1943 with a similar 'M' as yours, before the 1943: Longbranch No. These were purchased from the USA as supplies in the great war (WW1) along with the Pattern 14 rifle (amongst other materials). 1 Mk. Sujets similaires 4) Several arrow looking things located all over the rifle Although troops often resorted to more expedient means of modifying frogs to retain No. Both bayonet and scabbard are serial numbered. 4Mk. However, this has not been substantiated. Bryan Browns Old Military Markings Web site. The front loop is for the forward hand - I like to use it to press the hand against the fore stock to enhance that firm fore-end grip that Enfield like - this front loop can also be adjusted for length to allow the right tautness from biceps to rifle body when in position. $40.59. Here's the inside story of what they found and how they're rebuilding an industry giant. There were basic diagrams and instructions in the various Sniping training pamphlets, however I wanted to add a little more description and variation (with photos. APEX Gun Parts is your source for hard to find gun parts, parts kits, and accessories. These included ROF Fazakerley, BSA, and ROF Maltby. not at all lol, from the markings I can find and other details would you guys say it's a long branch with a savage magazine? This illustrates just how long after their obsolescence, that bureaucratic inertia can demand retention of items in military stores. Little is known about these British No. Savage marked their bayonets with the letter "S". The markings in the other photos are not mentioned, except the '2' on the bolt head, which is its size (there being several sizes available to get the head space right). However, the Rijkswacht (Gendarmerie) used the No. These were supplied to the British under the Lend-Lease Act. The Indian plant stamped their own serial number into the top of the receiver. Piece of cake rebarreling the old No4. In 1943, Prince-Smith was assigned the dispersal code N56. 4 Mk. We set ourselves apart by supplying unique parts at a good value and standing by our products by offering outstanding customer service. You must be rich. Hosted by Andy H. Gruff, I don't know but will check mine when I get home tonight and report in if it is on mine. Auto Engineering produced approx. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, Exploded View: Short, Magazine Lee-Enfield, Mk III, 'A Grisly Business:' Australias Lee-Enfield Sniper Rifle, Reviving An Enfield: RTIs Imported No. Something that looks like 12C456 or 12L345. I scabbard in web belt frogs made for use with the Pattern 1907 bayonet. The leather is quite thin, suggesting that this might have been done for civilian (e.g., police) use, rather than military use. The size, position and style of font are particular to the Hollands application. They have a high standard of fit and finish, feel solid and robust and are a joy at the rifle range, where, due to a magic thing near exclusive to Enfields called Positive Compensation, 1000 yard accuracy can . Very good 5 groove barrel. 4 Mk. GI#: 102214907. Post III was declared obsolete in 1946. 3. 4 Mk. II* bayonets from 19421945. The M47C is typical, as is the date and TR mark. The front curved shape of the cheek piece was prone to splitting so finger inserts and repairs are often seen hear to keep the rifle working. For example, No. These came together as you see them; bayonet and sheath have "4" painted on. No5 rifles (Jungle Carbines) serial numbers consisted of a sequential 4 digit number starting with 0001 running through to 9999, the numbers were preceded by a letter prefix. I've looked all over the internet and I can't find any info. The new value of an ENFIELD 303 NO 4 MK I rifle has fallen ($24.62) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $603.36 . by The_Enigma 29 Mar 2012, 15:46, Post 0000002950 00000 n This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. The safety latch style and M47C mark are of note as is the rear pad, flush slotted screw and interestingly the screw being staked at the top. The new model became the Magazine, Lee Enfield Mk1 or MLE Mk1 in 1895. Here are 2 genuine early, It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an, In the expert write ups, there is reference to the H&H contract use of an, Get email offers & the latest news from ArtioZen. This example was made in the USA by the Savage Stevens Co. of Chicopee Falls, Massachusetts. 1) A white "37" painted on the stock. The stocks of British manufactured examples are typically a naturally seasoned English walnut that has a moderately dark brown color and has a tight, straight grain. I rifle, the No. Prior to obtaining independence in 1946, Jordan was a British Protectorate, known as Transjordan. 4 MK 1 and retained its original chambering in .303 British. A general guide for military surplus rifles, pistols, and ammunition. II* its characteristic stepped join between blade and socket. by Steve Hoog 23 Mar 2012, 15:17, Post 4 rifle into at least the 1960s. deeply-struck "s" I* (T) were the standard WWII sniper rifles for the British and for the Commonwealth, except for Australia. The Belgians received Lee-Enfield No. For the rifles produced in North America, American black walnut was consistently used, with birch used as a substitute when walnut was not available. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for British Lee Enfield No. They would apply this mark to th butt heel - running along the axis of the rifle - red with the muzzle on the left. The No. $6.50 + $5.05 shipping. I will have to check through Skennerton tonight. Snipers in the field (Europe) were prove to take a Bren length webbing sling and leave the 1907 Leather behind. The rifle pictured here is a No. The beechwood furniture is smooth, bright and unblemished. The U.S.M5 scabbard was made by Beckwith Manufacturing Co. of Dover, New Hampshire. . The left side of the receiver is marked "NO 4 MK 1*". Our Price: . Following the sale of Remington Outdoor Company's assets in September 2020, Vista Outdoor purchased Remington Ammunition. If anyone can help me out I would really appreciate it. Hey guys, I just recently was given by my boss a Lee Enfield NO.4 MK1 303 British that I am trying to gather all the info about. Savage rear micrometer sights have some unique machining features in the battle peep - which will be missing on the T format versions. The No. It has been consistently observed but no reason or original documentation found to support it. RV# 11322, Socket: "No 4 Mk II" over a superimposed "LB". Firing mechanism is Enfield pull cocker type, with left side serrated safety lever. & S. Ltd." = Fred Fisher & Sons Ltd. "JW (S) Ltd." = John Wilson Ltd., Sheffield, "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" = Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. 0000001927 00000 n 4Mk. During the war, the No. Most of these seem to have been released / imported in the 1980s. One of the recent Pakistani surplus releases featured a range of No4T and their replacement parts - now circulating in European, Australian and USA markets. 0000004885 00000 n Here is a simple shadow board depicting the 4 most common Enfields. Parker Hale PH5DC Lee Enfield No4 rear sight and PH 'FS2A' foresight. 4 Mark I rifle was adopted on Nov. 15, 1939. 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It has been observed that only on No4T rifles, there can be found an "X" mark on the upper left flat on top of the left fore end that holds the receiver wall. The most common of these were: XP was used for the Shortened and Lightened Australian Lithgow (No6 Jungle Carbine) rifles, A was used for No1 MkVI trail rifles, BS was used on the British No7 small bore rifles, and T1 for the No5 small bore rifles. The latter will have an engraving on the flat side of the receiver which will read something like (taking one of my rifles as an example), F(FTR)49. The rifle Savage produced was the Lee-Enfield No.4 Mk.1*, a British military design that was adopted by the U.K. just a few years before World War II began. Baird Engineering Company of Belfast, Northern Ireland, produced approximately 101,103 bayonets from 19421944. 0000000016 00000 n Date of Manuf: 4 mm. II bayonets from 19421944. I bayonet was a throwback. But the persistent zero problem became an annoyance. "S" for rear sight replaced (at Hollands)- "needs re-sighting", Serial Numbers - other than the receiver wrist and bolt. Westland of Croyden - an alternative to their "C.E.W. Many Baird examples have a crowned IG mark on the socket. You can build more Battery Ammo and .303 at the Chem bench. A small number of aluminum mouthpieces are known, along with a single brass mouthpiece example (discussed below). Occasionally, viewer's (inspector's) marks are found on No. Decades of experience with handguns and holsters have given the author some excellent insights into the most popular designs. Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 T Sniper Rifle (reproduction). An additional 1944 Wrist / Action stamping group - an excellent condition example. 4 scabbards, the Securing Tab remained in British Army stores until the mid-1970s. Four scabbard designs saw significant use with the No. broad arrow proofmark 1943" over "CAT. 4 MK. N30 over H&B (pictured at left). Officially adopted in July1940 as the: Tab, Securing, Bayonet No. Date Packed: 7/8/57 Upon firing the wood instantly fractured and burns resulted, and although serious injury was possible, the owner was lucky this time. This example was reworked post-War following the change from Roman to Arabic numbering. This article, "Exploded View: Lee-Enfield No. Nearly 5 million spike bayonets were reported produced. 4Mk. Sujet: Re: Lee Enfield No4 Mk1 vs Armes modernes en .308 Aujourd'hui 20:28: Pour en possder une, j'ai une tikka T3x tac en 308 , et 600m ft un temps les rsultats taient prometteurs . All of the numbers on the metal (except the magazine) are matching. The Crown Corporation Small Arms Ltd., Long Branch, Ontario, Canada, made approximately 910,000 No. Due to similarities with Indian Government acceptance marks, this was once thought to possibly indicate Indian service. Over the years I have received many emails regarding serial numbers. Armourers would not make a buttstock with S51 for spare parts. Another dimension is whether to use (or if it is fitted) to include the front trigger guard triangular sling swivel (included in the factory build from Nov 1944 onwards and added by armourers as found after). British Enfied rifle No.4 in action protecting a Bren gunner. It is a bolt action repeating rifle with a 10 round box magazine and free floating barrel, and is chambered for the venerable Mk.VII ammunition in .303 caliber. Helve: "M.H.B." Canadian Arsenals trademark was adopted in 1947, Spirit of the Pike - British Socket Bayonets of the 20th Century, British No. N30 (pictured at left) The 2ndNZEF fought in the North African and European Theatres as part of the British 8th Army. You are using an out of date browser. Specs: Savage Enfield No.4 MK1* Barrel Length: 25" Overall Length: 44.5" Caliber: .303 British Weight: 9lbs Capacity: 10 rounds Price: $600 to $1200 Ratings (out of five stars): Reliability: * * * * * It wasn't made by the French. The, The very first Maltbys and BSA's produced their own and used the associated early marks for each (large B for BSA, stylized M for Maltby). 4 Mk 1 was made only in America and Canada and featured an additional simplification omitting two parts and some machining operations that allowed the bolt to be removed from the receiver by aligning the bolt head perfectly with a gap in its guide slot along the side of the receiver. A drain hole in the finial, allows water to drain. The company was established on the bombed out site of the South East London Indoor Sports Club (destroyed in the blitz bombings of 194041), solely to make bayonets. Qty 1 F Sep 1986 II*, with approximately 84,566 reported produced from 19431945. Rifle Serial Numbers were put on the box that all the parts of a subject rifle were taken from and stored in while it was being converted. . 4Mk. 2 mm. All matching numbers. Weight fully loaded with sling was eight pounds even and overall length a handy 39.5 inches. Many minor variations in parts are present across the different manufacturers and for the different years that the rifles were produced. Henry Repeating Arms recently presented a $25,000 check a nonprofit organization that provides support and programs for the families and co-workers of firefighters killed in the line of duty. Stock No: 7B/546 4 mm. 4 Mk. 4 Mk. The very early contracts at Holland and Holland for T conversion included selected rifles from Savage, Longbranch, Maltby and BSA (a single Fazakerley example has been documented @ 2020) - this was too much variation for the conversion process to be efficient and by early 1942 only BSA rifles were to be converted. My thought is its a Savage No4 Mk1* lend lease made in 1942, It has the ( S ) markings and machine marks, The receiver, barrel . Our Price: 9.99: No4 Mk1 sight. . The rifle functions beautifully, I'm just trying to track things down as much as I can. 1 Mk III or III*, with the original MLE and LEC becoming obsolete along with the earlier SMLE models. ownership marking. PS over K inside a circle (pictured at left) It is essentially an updated N0. The sling worked well enough in dry / sunny climates like Africa and Italy, but in the UK training camps and northern Europe they were found to be "slippy" to use and needing lots of preservative (Dubbin) to survive the wet conditions. Lee Enfield No. AA5081 is the stores catalogue number. 0 The bayonet and socket were one solid forging. 30,000 rod forgings. The Original Condition rifles are in good turn in condition. The socket was forged by Viners Ltd. British No4 rifles were set up with a 5 digit serial number system with 1XXXX being allotted to Maltby, 2XXXX Fazakerley, 3XXXX BSA Shirley. During the Second World War, the British government curtailed the use of commercial trademarks to make it more difficult for the Germans to locate (and bomb) factories producing war materiel. Socket: "No 4 Mk II" over "S" and "B 75" over "1455". 2. SMLEs will have serial numbers stamped on the bolt, receiver, barrel, nose cap and the underside of the rear sight. Fazakerley also continued to produce the rifle for foreign contracts after the war. 0000000756 00000 n During refurbishment the bulk of German markings were scrubbed (although some waffenampts are still present and evidence of markings being removed is clear), further the original . Although some knife bayonet designs were considered, most types submitted utilized a cruciform blade. The markings were different for the different manufacturers and time periods, but they are all well documented in various books. So I would say the "S" mark can be used for verification of a real rifle but it is not the main course of study. Genuine early, When the war expedient models were produced (initially with the "L" flip sight, then those selected for conversion to T status had to have the rear sight replaced with a modified micrometer sight (H&H indicated this had been done by stamping the "S" on the front of the right receiver wall ( this happened to most, but not all!) 0000001961 00000 n 1* is functionally the same as the Mk.1, but various changes were made in the design to make the manufacturing process faster. Advertisements. Pattern 1907 Bayonet over stamped 8 (1908) Wilkingson . 4 bayonet scabbards in having an integral web belt frog. 0000004628 00000 n Two-piece construction gives the No. be forewarned, Spike Fever is contagious! This "last-ditch" SMLE was manufactured in 1943, and it has all the signs of a wartime firearm made in the throws of desperation. There are fewer finer rifles that are a pleasure to own, enjoy and shoot than the peacetime made Lee Enfield No4 Mk2. But it also has a the LB and a Canadian broad arrow so I'm just a little confused thanks for any help. . Four firms produced the No. 0000001570 00000 n Welcome to the forum. (2) Canadian No. LEE ENFIELD NO. When these rifles were refurbished in the factory, they were given a second black oxidizing or they were painted with a matte or semigloss black paint in the spots where the original finish had worn off. mark) on a scopeless 1944 BSA. This means Royal Ordance Factory Fazakerly, Factory Through Repair, 1949. by Steve Hoog 22 Mar 2012, 20:21, Post For those out there that want to get deeper into the serial number issues I would suggest purchasing either Skip Strattons or Ian Skennertons books. Before the war, Prince-Smith was a manufacturer of machinery for making woolen textiles. Some SMLEs may be found with as little as a 3 digit number and high as a 5 digit number. The Canopy in Ellicott City - Totally Cool With OC, Still openings for this Saturday's York IWLA Funshoot, Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section, Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses, View up to date on firearm-related events. Production occurred during the latter half of 1941 and into the early months of 1942. 1 in 1939. 769 0 obj<> endobj Call us toll free: +1 888-744-0066. An increasing consensus is that this simply may be a British viewer's mark, as this mark seems only to be found on Prince-Smith examples. Mazak is, by far, the most common, followed by blued steel. starting with a 1) indicates it was manufactured by ROF Maltby in Yorkshire, England. 4 spike bayonets used by Turkey. Recent research by Graham Priest determined that "TRM.1", "TRM.2", and "TRM 3" identify the Tinsley Rolling Mills Co. Ltd. of Sheffield. The rifle's two-piece stock and 10-round magazine are two of its most distinctive features. #6. Ltd. (pictured at left) by Saxon Cross 22 Mar 2012, 21:33, Post Adopted by the British Army in 1939 the No.4 came into full production during the height of World War 2. The Lee-Enfield series of rifles is one of the most successful bolt-action rifles of all time. These prefixes can be used to authenticate these rifles if found in a gun shop or personal collection. Feedback from the initial service performance at the front (often from prior experienced target shooters) indicated that longer slings with a central mount at the front of the magazine would be preferred. The rifle was a No. So usually to get the old barrel off I cut a groove relief just forward of the receiver to relieve the pressure. The frog measures 4.875in. Free shipping on many items | Browse your favorite brands | affordable prices. III (substitute) scabbard with parallel sides and oval frog stud. II was, by far, the most numerous variant, with over 3.3million units produced. According to Graham Priest, on a rough scale of observations, he indicated that you see 100P.S.& S.Ltd for every circle mark; 150P.S.K for every circle mark, and 500N56 or unmarked for every circle mark. II bayonet re-packaged in 1963 cardboard carton. Seen in the picture above are the normal spots to find the serial number and manufacturers information on the No4 and the No5 rifle. Since the Government arms factories were already running at capacity producing rifles and machine guns, private contracts were let for bayonet production. S51 was already the war time production code for Holland and Holland - there were to make components under this code as well as convert No4 rifles tot he new T specification beginning in early 1942. 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